“Your precious Heather Cox..”- why the disdain for her? Also when are you going to bring more diversity in your circle? I’m a subscriber and I like your show but it’s a lot of white men, a couple of white women in other shows, one Kendra James on a side show and Stacey Abrams on her own. It’s not at all representative of this country. How are you different?
You have a diverse range of guests on the podcast so I’m not bothered by that. But wondering what the issue with Heather Cox Richardson is?? Sounded condescending. I enjoy reading her every day which I can do for free.
It lands with a dull thud when you're trying to sell people subscriptions to your substack. Why I'm boycotting until Lovett acknowledges his mistake. In another setting, I might have appreciated it. His jokes are often an embarrassment to his teammates. Example: when they were on Morning Joe promoting their book, and Lovett interrupted with a very unfunny joke. Favreau's annoyance on air was hard to miss and a distraction. Lovett is capable of incisive political insights, but you can see why he couldn't make it as a stand-up comic.
I think that’s why the joke works. She IS likable and unassuming—and an eminently qualified, highly regarded public intellectual. She is the polar opposite of the preening, nincompoops, and “very stable geniuses" who are lauded on the other side. As long as the joke doesn’t offend her (and I can’t imagine it does) feel free to enjoy it.
I’m sure she doesn’t care. I personally didn’t think it worked but that’s the case with jokes- works for some, not for others. I expected it more for Megyn Kelly than HCR is all.
I'd say the joke is that nearly 100% of people who read the post follow HCR and love her, so it's more of a crack on the meme of how often we reference her... But yeah maybe it had a tiny edge to it that felt a bit off.
Yeah that was all I really meant. I figured it was a joke but it was a badly worded one as came out a bit snarky is all. I don’t imagine HCR could care less.
You’re right, humor, is very subjective. I once wasted half an hour trying to reassure a friend that she wasn’t weird because she didn’t understand why everyone else had found an off the cuff remark from a third party hilarious, but she didn’t get the joke. Telling a Yale Ph.D. to stop overthinking didn’t work!
Yep…. Lovitt…. Another unfortunate faux pas 🤪 forgiven, bur not fair to the rest of the ( beloved to me) gang at PSA/PSW. So grateful for all their hard work. Bless you 😇🌎🙏🕊️❤️
My exact reaction. I've subscribed to PSA/PSW for years and have appreciated being well-informed by them. The disdain, even consdescending mockery, of Heather Cox Richardson rather stunned me. It's a real turn-off. I'm not going to subscribe to Crooked's Substack just for that reason.
Come on peeps - try to keep up with the Substack vibe. Heather Cox Richardson is simply the most subscribed Substack so is the obvious foil for a humorous pitch to get subscribers - surely not a dis....
Because the black president chose them not the other way around. So no, that means nothing. It’s hilarious that you even tried to make that seem equal. What are these men now in a role to make decisions, doing about diversity?
How did I try to make that hilariously equal? I even said "if that matters". Perhaps, though, not everything that happens is a determination to discriminate against anyone. The three guys worked together in the Obama administration and established a channel for their creativity when their candidate finished his term. That may mean nothing to you, but take it up with President Obama for hiring white writers.
I'm kind of confused. If I subscribe for the free version do I get all the same episodes I would have gotten if I were on apple podcasts? Or do we now have to pay for them?
You let Lovett write this, didn’t you?
“Your precious Heather Cox..”- why the disdain for her? Also when are you going to bring more diversity in your circle? I’m a subscriber and I like your show but it’s a lot of white men, a couple of white women in other shows, one Kendra James on a side show and Stacey Abrams on her own. It’s not at all representative of this country. How are you different?
You have a diverse range of guests on the podcast so I’m not bothered by that. But wondering what the issue with Heather Cox Richardson is?? Sounded condescending. I enjoy reading her every day which I can do for free.
It's a joke. It's very very clearly a joke.
The fact that you had to say that & others were confused says that it wasn’t quite that clear.
It lands with a dull thud when you're trying to sell people subscriptions to your substack. Why I'm boycotting until Lovett acknowledges his mistake. In another setting, I might have appreciated it. His jokes are often an embarrassment to his teammates. Example: when they were on Morning Joe promoting their book, and Lovett interrupted with a very unfunny joke. Favreau's annoyance on air was hard to miss and a distraction. Lovett is capable of incisive political insights, but you can see why he couldn't make it as a stand-up comic.
Woah! Going for the jugular Lisa. Why so serious? People say silly things. This is definitely not one of them 😂
Going for the jugular?! A most unserious comment
I'm pretty sure that was meant facetiously
It probably was but it’s hard to diss HCR even facetiously. She’s so likable and unassuming; it feels mean
I think that’s why the joke works. She IS likable and unassuming—and an eminently qualified, highly regarded public intellectual. She is the polar opposite of the preening, nincompoops, and “very stable geniuses" who are lauded on the other side. As long as the joke doesn’t offend her (and I can’t imagine it does) feel free to enjoy it.
I’m sure she doesn’t care. I personally didn’t think it worked but that’s the case with jokes- works for some, not for others. I expected it more for Megyn Kelly than HCR is all.
But not actually funny. Just snide.
It was literally, objectively hilarious. I think you guys are on the wrong sub if this is all it takes 😂
It was inappropriate to what is basically a sales pitch.
I had the same thought about the Richardson knock. What the hell? C'mon guys, I know it was supposted to be funny, but really?
I'd say the joke is that nearly 100% of people who read the post follow HCR and love her, so it's more of a crack on the meme of how often we reference her... But yeah maybe it had a tiny edge to it that felt a bit off.
Yeah that was all I really meant. I figured it was a joke but it was a badly worded one as came out a bit snarky is all. I don’t imagine HCR could care less.
You’re right, humor, is very subjective. I once wasted half an hour trying to reassure a friend that she wasn’t weird because she didn’t understand why everyone else had found an off the cuff remark from a third party hilarious, but she didn’t get the joke. Telling a Yale Ph.D. to stop overthinking didn’t work!
Thank you
“Your precious” is the problem. Dismissive of the “you”.
Yep
Yep…. Lovitt…. Another unfortunate faux pas 🤪 forgiven, bur not fair to the rest of the ( beloved to me) gang at PSA/PSW. So grateful for all their hard work. Bless you 😇🌎🙏🕊️❤️
My exact reaction. I've subscribed to PSA/PSW for years and have appreciated being well-informed by them. The disdain, even consdescending mockery, of Heather Cox Richardson rather stunned me. It's a real turn-off. I'm not going to subscribe to Crooked's Substack just for that reason.
I think they were trying to be funny but it didn’t land. I see Lovett “humor” in play here.
It was a joke!
Yes a very poor one!
Come on peeps - try to keep up with the Substack vibe. Heather Cox Richardson is simply the most subscribed Substack so is the obvious foil for a humorous pitch to get subscribers - surely not a dis....
100% on the “precious HCR” comment. not good. where’s the retract?!
Look at you being annoying with the identity politics
FO!
The three white founders worked for a black president, if that matters.
Because the black president chose them not the other way around. So no, that means nothing. It’s hilarious that you even tried to make that seem equal. What are these men now in a role to make decisions, doing about diversity?
How did I try to make that hilariously equal? I even said "if that matters". Perhaps, though, not everything that happens is a determination to discriminate against anyone. The three guys worked together in the Obama administration and established a channel for their creativity when their candidate finished his term. That may mean nothing to you, but take it up with President Obama for hiring white writers.
You continue to miss the point intentionally so I’m not wasting my time on you. But then how white of you!
Not everything needs inclusion. Their guests are incredibly diverse.
The End
Yes it does. Who gives a shit what you think? Move on, Kate bonehead!
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About damn time lol!
Right?!
So psyched to have you guys here, and the office now thinks I’m crazy because the Dan comment had me rolling.
Don’t come for HCR. She’s a big kahuna here. 😄
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Nice to see you guys here.
About time!
Welcome 🥰
FINALLY!
The liberal temperature of Substack is heating up! Welcome
Any free options ? I have been a Crooked follower since the beginning I’m a senior on limited income right now
Yes, you can subscribe to the free version of our Substack from this post.
Thank you I found on Dubstack.
I'm kind of confused. If I subscribe for the free version do I get all the same episodes I would have gotten if I were on apple podcasts? Or do we now have to pay for them?
I’m a big PSA fan, but not gonna join just yet, if only because of the HCR crack. I know you’re kidding, but she is untouchable in any context.
Hey guys- enjoy listening to you, and I "might" subscribe here ......but don't be dissing our beloved Heather Cox Richardson.
PS : have you ever had her on your show?
Re HCR comment: not funny.